Canon 5D mk II

[brije]

Just as an info, I've just found this DeLOCK SD to CF adapter, that is compatible with both CF type I and II. So an adapter for both types of CF cards does actually exists, that meaning they should work with type I cameras.

Link to website (in danish) hardware-store.dk/cf-adapter/prod_2758.html

Translation from the site: For use of a SDHC card in a camera with CF slot.
Supports: Compact Flash Type I / II, Secure Digital, Secure Digital High Capacity, MultiMedia Card.

Sincerely,
Brian

[ziv]

Their information is incorrect. It's a type II adapter. Please read the rest of this thread.

[kalo_sp]

Hi again
Just passing by let me sum the last months:
More than 10000 pics successfully transferred. Just 3-5 err2. Who cares. Respect guys. Keep on moving with these pricelles products. My clients love to see previews on big screens ... On a field... Amazing.

[ziv]

Awesome. Glad it works for you. I really have no idea why some people have more Err2's, and some less or none. It could be a manufacturing issue with the CF adapter. But the fact that it's not our product, prevents us from finding out more info. All we can do is, to strive to have the best quality, with our hardware, software and services, but only for our own products.

Thanks --

Ziv.

[mddelman]

I'd also buy a CF card to use with my Canon 7D. I'm not willing to deal with the issues involved in using the card with a CF adapter, so I won't buy the current product.

Thanks,

Michael

[hdpete]

Can I just check before I purchase, that this is the right delock and eye fi card for my 5D mkii?

Insert amazon co uk here /DeLOCK-adaptor-SDHC-SDXC-61796/dp/B004AFJZUW
(too spammy apparently)

Thanks
Pete

[ziv]

That adapter appears to be the right one, in the UK.

Don't forget -- totally unsupported by Eye-Fi.

Thx.

[fawkmee]

BTW, I wanted to keep everyone current. We'll take a bit of a different approach with this one, and ask you, our users, for help.

All testing should be done with an X2 card.

Eye-Fi users out there, if you'd like to help test this adapter, get it from B&H, and test it with any of the following UDMA based cameras. Keep us posted. Based on your feedback, we'll decide if it should be supported, or not:

UDMA Type II bodies:

Canon EOS 7D (some users have been reporting ERR 02's, even with the latest 7D firmware)
Canon EOS 1D Mark IV (but this camera is Eye-Fi Connected and has an SD slot, so it makes 0 sense to use an adapter here)
Canon EOS 5D Mark II (some users have been reporting ERR 02's, even with the latest 5DmkII firmware)
Canon EOS 50D
Canon EOS 7D
Nikon D3X
Nikon D3
Sony Alpha DSLR-A900
Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III (but it has an SD slot)

Here is the B&H link:


Thx --

Ziv.

ziv,

I know this has probably been asked a hundred times, but I couldn't find a straight answer using the search functions on these forums or googling. I think keeping a list like this is a great idea. However, has anyone ever reported successfully using this adapter and Eye-Fi with a Nikon D700--fully hacked to to fit in the CF1 slot and fully unsupported by Eye-Fi of course...?

We've all seen that infamous youtube video of some guy supposedly using Eye-Fi with a D700, so I'm sure theres a chance it will work. Whether or not that was some sort of "faked" video is yet to be seen since the person who uploaded it hasn't uploaded anything since and did not list any details about his setup. I'm willing to try anything short of soldering the Eye-Fi card onto the adapter to try to make it work. But if others have tried hacking the adaptor you listed earlier in this tread with no success with the D700, there would be no point of trying right?

So whats the latest on the D700 + Eye-Fi + modified adapter set up..again.. totally unsupported by Eye-Fi, unclassified, off the record.. etc..?

Thanks,
wil

[Andrey_K]

Hi all!
Does anyone tried this adapter with Eye-Fi Pro X2 8 gB and Canon 5D mark 2? (in place (???) put the http www ebay com) ???/itm/16G-32G-64G-SDXC-SDHC-SD-Eye-Fi-X2-Compact-Flash-CF-Type-II-Card-Adapter-/280791538155?pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item41607ad9eb
Sellers of promise compatibility with Eye-Fi Pro X2.

[ziv]

ziv,

I know this has probably been asked a hundred times, but I couldn't find a straight answer using the search functions on these forums or googling. I think keeping a list like this is a great idea. However, has anyone ever reported successfully using this adapter and Eye-Fi with a Nikon D700--fully hacked to to fit in the CF1 slot and fully unsupported by Eye-Fi of course...?

We've all seen that infamous youtube video of some guy supposedly using Eye-Fi with a D700, so I'm sure theres a chance it will work. Whether or not that was some sort of "faked" video is yet to be seen since the person who uploaded it hasn't uploaded anything since and did not list any details about his setup. I'm willing to try anything short of soldering the Eye-Fi card onto the adapter to try to make it work. But if others have tried hacking the adaptor you listed earlier in this tread with no success with the D700, there would be no point of trying right?

So whats the latest on the D700 + Eye-Fi + modified adapter set up..again.. totally unsupported by Eye-Fi, unclassified, off the record.. etc..?

Thanks,
wil

Hi Wil,

Yup, I'll be very direct with my answer, and of course, after I reply, I'll remind everyone that this is TOTALLY UNSUPPORTED.

Yes, if you remove the front plate and the back plate (easy to do, by sticking a knife between the metal and plastic, and prying it off), you could do it and it works well. Here is what you need to do:

* remove the front plate
* remove the back plate
* remove the CF portion from the enclosing frame
* what you'll be left with is an ugly PCB + an SD socket that is type I thick.

If you insert that into the D700, it'll work, as long as you don't forget to change your Auto Meter Off power settings, to NEVER turn off or turn off after 30 minutes. The Auto Meter off is the thing that controls the power to the camera and the CF slot.

You'll get pretty good range, because you've removed both metal plates from the CF adapter.

Since the D700 is UDMA based, the adapter that's mentioned in this thread will work. I've received numerous reports from people that have done it.

But it's so ugly and not consumer friendly, since you need to surgery the adapter, and what you're left with is a geeky looking adapter that shows the bare electronics. Clearly, we can't support any of this.

So buy a couple of adapters, in case you ruin the first one But the whole thing, if done right, should take less than 3 minutes, and maybe 10, if you're being super careful and it's your first time.

EVERYTHING I'VE SAID ABOVE IS TOTALLY UNSUPPORTED BY EYE-FI, SO PEOPLE -- PLEASE DON'T CALL EYE-FI SUPPORT ON THIS TOPIC. IF YOUR CARDS DON'T WORK, PUT THEM INTO AN SD SLOT FIRST, AND THEN CALL SUPPORT.

Thx --

Ziv.

[waffull]

Just on a curious note, does this adaptor that is recommended to work with canon 5DMKII would also work with a Nikon D300?

Nope. The D300 isn't UDMA based. The ONLY cameras are really, just the ones I posted in this thread:

...

The D700 and the D3s are also UDMA based, but they're CF Type I, so the adapter won't fit.

The D300 manual shows:
"Media Type I and II CompactFlash memory cards (UDMA compliant); microdrives" Page 406

I have to be honest, I have read most of this thread, but not all of it. So I am sorry if this was already brought up.

Given the specs, per the manual, of the D300, is there any reason to think this SDtoCF card adapter wouldn't work?

Thank you,
Marc

[ziv]

Guys,

Rob Galbraith (http://www.robgalbraith.com/) has brought it to my attention that with the latest 5.0001 firmware, the UDMA adapter is unusable with the 5DmkII and 7D bodies. Rob is extremely thorough in his testing and findings, so I have absolutely no doubt that this indeed is the case. 5.0001 has been a major firmware upgrade, with a lot of changes under the hood that make our cards MORE compatible with more cameras. Unfortunately, the side-effect is that the card now doesn't work, at all, in the UDMA adapter, in Canon bodies.

Nikon bodies still seem to work, and Rob has tried the card in the D3X, and although he gets slow write speeds, the combo works.

So...

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but now you guys have even more reasons to start using SDHC based cameras.

Thanks --

Ziv.

[lucas311]

Hi guys,

I just purchased an Eye-fi Pro 8gb X2 to use with my 5D MkII, however, didn't know about the new firmware updrage. Is there anyway to downgrade the firmware???
I would appreciate your help.
Thanks.

Lucas

[ziv]

Hi guys,

I just purchased an Eye-fi Pro 8gb X2 to use with my 5D MkII, however, didn't know about the new firmware updrage. Is there anyway to downgrade the firmware???
I would appreciate your help.
Thanks.

Lucas

Lucas, apologies, but the short answer is no. Sorry.

[fnj]

So...

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but now you guys have even more reasons to start using SDHC based cameras.

Thanks --

Ziv.

I'm sorry, but this is a decidedly half-assed response. I would hope that the good folks at Eyefi are working hard to restore comparability so that folks who have spent good money on their product can continue to use it.

[waffull]

I still haven't received a reply from my Jan 13th post, so I wouldn't hold my breath on their restoring compatibility. Seems like these products are more buyer-be-ware than buyer-be-satisfied..

[ziv]

I still haven't received a reply from my Jan 13th post, so I wouldn't hold my breath on their restoring compatibility. Seems like these products are more buyer-be-ware than buyer-be-satisfied..

I totally missed your question. Apologies.

The D300 will work with any of the adapters, UDMA (from this thread) or the slower older adapter. I personally haven't tried it, in a really long time, but it SHOULD work. I know that with the latest 5.0001 firmware, the Canon 5DmkII and 7D bodies stopped working, but Nikon bodies should still be OK.

Again, this is totally unsupported, so you're on your own. We're not supporting CF adapters, to prevent exactly what you said above. We want our users to have a good experience with our products, and the CF adapters are not our products, AND, don't work well in may cases.

Thx --

Ziv.

[ziv]

So...

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but now you guys have even more reasons to start using SDHC based cameras.

Thanks --

Ziv.

I'm sorry, but this is a decidedly half-assed response. I would hope that the good folks at Eyefi are working hard to restore comparability so that folks who have spent good money on their product can continue to use it.

We're awesome folks, not just good, but we're not spending any resources on testing CF adapters, and thus, with the latest 5.0001 firmware, you're out of luck with the 5DmkII. We're small, and very focused on the mass market, and I know that this response isn't what you'd like to hear, but I'm being totally honest with you.

Here's to hoping that the 5DmkIII has an SD slot The new D800 does

Thx --

Ziv.

[waffull]

I still haven't received a reply from my Jan 13th post, so I wouldn't hold my breath on their restoring compatibility. Seems like these products are more buyer-be-ware than buyer-be-satisfied..

I totally missed your question. Apologies.

The D300 will work with any of the adapters, UDMA (from this thread) or the slower older adapter. I personally haven't tried it, in a really long time, but it SHOULD work. I know that with the latest 5.0001 firmware, the Canon 5DmkII and 7D bodies stopped working, but Nikon bodies should still be OK.

Again, this is totally unsupported, so you're on your own. We're not supporting CF adapters, to prevent exactly what you said above. We want our users to have a good experience with our products, and the CF adapters are not our products, AND, don't work well in may cases.

Thx --

Ziv.

Thank you for the reply...

If only I could afford the D800, this wouldn't be an issue

[ziv]

I've had a D300s, for 2 years. LOVE IT. It's my main camera, it's Eye-Fi Connected, and I've been holding out, on replacing it, until something like the D800 comes out. I had the D300 for 2 years before the D300s. But if you don't need the power of the D800, consider the D300s, even used. Mine for example, has 120K on the shutter, and it still works like new. So even if you buy something used on eBay, as long as the shutter count is low, and the camera came from a good owner -- you'll be golden. The difference in imaging from the D300s and the D300 is noticeable.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

... Rob Galbraith has brought it to my attention that with the latest 5.0001 firmware, the UDMA adapter is unusable with the 5DmkII and 7D bodies...

Is 5.0001 the firmware where Direct Mode was introduced? My main purpose for wireless tethering is to use it with the iPad on location where there aren't usually WiFi networks available and I don't want to have to buy/bring/setup another piece of gear like a wireless access point.

Let me know, thanks.

[ziv]

http://support.eye.fi/cards/specs/firmw ... ase-notes/

4.5022

Thx,

Ziv.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

Suppose the next question would be does the package indicate the firmware version that's on the card? Hoping I can avoid playing the guessing / trial and error game when buying the Eye-fi card.

Definitely no way to downgrade the firmware? Any unsupported methods? For example if we could get a copy of the previous firmware version and place it in the location on the HDD the software pulls from when it runs the update that might work? http://support.eye.fi/software/start/ho ... -firmware/

Edit: Just came across this... maybe this could work?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3436

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

Doing more research, just read on a dpreview thread that someone upgraded to 5.0001 and still has it working.

Tried to post the url but got denied because I'm a new user. To find it do a google search for the following. Should return a result for a thread titled "Which is the best SD-to-CF adapter in 5Dmk2?"

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dpreview eye-fi 5.0001 5dmk2

Another one here:

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"photography-on-the" eye-fi direct mode 5.0001

... should return a thread titled "Eye-Fi 'Direct Mode' -> iPad"

Yet another (looks like the same poster as the dpreview thread though...

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amazon "Works well with Eye-Fi X2Pro SD card" 24peter

Sorry for all the round about links. Admins, can I get the off-site URLs ban lifted from my account? I'm obviously not a spammer.

[ziv]

Unfortunately, the packages do not show the fw version, and we don't actively support downgrading consumers.

Apologies.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

Unfortunately, the packages do not show the fw version, and we don't actively support downgrading consumers.

Fair enough I suppose.

Curious how Rob Galbraith communicated this information about the 5.0001 incompatibility. Was it via an article or forum post on his site? Would like to know more details. Maybe we can narrow it down to a specific chipset in the adapters. Seems some others might have it working on 5.0001, would be nice to determine the winning combination.

[ziv]

Unfortunately, the packages do not show the fw version, and we don't actively support downgrading consumers.

Fair enough I suppose.

Curious how Rob Galbraith communicated this information about the 5.0001 incompatibility. Was it via an article or forum post on his site? Would like to know more details. Maybe we can narrow it down to a specific chipset in the adapters. Seems some others might have it working on 5.0001, would be nice to determine the winning combination.

No prob. I'll respond as specifically as possible:

* Rob Galbraith is super awesome and super thorough. He also has a lot of higher end CF bodies, that we don't (because we don't test CF bodies).
* He follows our firmware upgrades closely, and uses our cards in his product shots set-up, in conjuction with his iPad and Shuttersnitch.
* He upgraded to 5.0001 and noticed that his 5DmkII stopped working. He tested the card in Nikon DSLR's, with the UDMA adapter, and said that it still worked.

* There are only 2 chipsets in CF adapters -- non UDMA, and UDMA. Until 5.0001, the UDMA based adapter, used to work in the 5DmkII and the 7D, ALTHOUGH people reported ERR 02 (and so did Rob).

* Before the UDMA adapter came about, there was no way to use an X2 card in a UDMA based Canon body.

* the UDMA adapter seems to still work with Nikon bodies, even with firmware 5.0001, hence the confusion that some users are still using it successfully.


Hopefully, now you're starting to understand how confusing the CF adapter is, for users, and that's just one of the reasons that we don't support it.

There are plenty of beautiful DSLR bodies (pro and prosumer), from the top 3 DSLR OEM's, that have SDHC slots, that are all Eye-Fi Connected.

http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/camera-c ... postTabs=1

My summary here, is correct:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1352&start=45#p14097

Thx --

Ziv.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

I don't doubt the work that Rob and others have done but it does seem that others out there are having success on 5.0001. I have a lot of interest in this solution so I will continue to investigate an will post my findings here as this seems to be the most complete and thorough source at the moment.

[ziv]

Let us know what you find. I simply didn't want to set your expectations incorrectly. If you find a way to get the 5DmkII to work, let us know.

Thx

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

Well not as much useful information as I was hoping for but here's what one user told me ...

I removed the outer metal plate (cover) when I first got the adapter... There is no chipset info that I can see on my adapter... I'm running 2.0.9 FW on my 5DII.

Let me say my experience in general with the Eye-Fi card is less than perfect - even when using it without an adapter in my 60D. Just now, I had to format the card in camera (I find doing this often is necessary) and turn off and then turn on the camera (5DII) to get it to transfer images at all. But this has been an issue from day one with the Eye-Fi card - it can be very glitchy at times (I originally got it at the end of 2010 when the FW were still in the 3.000's.)

However, post FW 4.1000-something and prior to 5.0001, the card was not working at all in my 5DII. Now after 5.0001, while I still have to format the card often in-camera and sometimes turn the camera off/on (esp. when it goes to auto shutoff), I get good, relatively speedy & consistent transfers.

However, even with my 60D, I sometimes get frustratingly slow transfers for no apparent reason. Formatting the card, rebooting my wifi routers and/or computer usually restores transfer speeds. Point is, this solution is far from perfectly reliable. Still, it is the primary way I get images out of my cameras and into my computer. For my work, I need to see images on a big 24" computer screen while I am shooting.

As an aside, I added a repeater wi-fi router in the shooting area of my home since my main router (Verizon FIOS 80211.g) is a few rooms away. This helps transfer speeds more than removing the cover off the CF>SD adapter.

He did confirm too that he tried direct mode back in spring 2011 and it did work but he was not happy with speed of the transfers and the Android Eye-Fi app.

He also said this in a follow up response...

In terms of the chipset info, I'd have to remove the actual SD card reader and I'm not willing to do that. It's working quite well currently and don't want to mess it up (I just rattled off around 100 shots without any hitches.)

So it seems this can function on 5.0001 but it still unknown why it works for some and not others. Will post more info as I get it.