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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby Art Scott Fotografie on Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:24 pm

If it won't work with Nikon D700 and up.....just as if there were no adapter.....then it is no good to me......the last adapter I looked at for use with EyeFi could not guarantee that it would work at all and at best its distances was under 15 feet....that will not work shooting weddings......studio work I am not to worried about and it must...MUST work with RAW files........
Sorry Canonites but Gillat emailed me he had posted to one of my threads......too much Thanksgiving Day Celebrating for him I think......as I have only been posting on this thread: "Support for CF Cards to cater to D-SLR users" here -> http://tinyurl.com/252b2rz
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:31 pm

Art,

The D700 is CF Type I, so no adapter will ever work with it.

In terms of range + other concrete information on the topic, please look at Rob Galbraith's write-up:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_ ... 0055-10851

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby Chris1111 on Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:44 pm

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:22 am

Chris1111 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YywwabmhABQ


Which CF Type I adapter is that? Or, is it something that was home brewed by taking the adapter apart?
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby Chris1111 on Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:38 pm

ziv wrote:
Chris1111 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YywwabmhABQ


Which CF Type I adapter is that? Or, is it something that was home brewed by taking the adapter apart?


I have no idea. I'm just incredibly annoyed that I see the statement 'no adapter will ever work with a D700 for eyefi' and then a quick google search leads me to a video of someone apparently using an eyefi with an adapter on a D700.

Aren't you an eyefi employee? How does your company know so little about your own product? Can you people please get your act together and start producing a product that works for people, instead of falling back on the lame excuse that 'your camera isn't officially compatible with our product', because apparently almost NO camera is officially compatible. Its literally been over a year now that I've been lurking on these forums and looking at your product, and it just doesn't appear to work. Its a piece of shit and you people need to either FINALLLLLLLLLY work out the problems (you've had plenty of time), or go into another line of work.

I'm sending my eyefi pro x2 back for a refund because it doesn't work at all on my sony a200. Yes yes, its not an officially compatible camera...but then again, what camera is? Because I went through your compatibility list and there is almost nothing listed on it.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby berend on Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:07 pm

Chris1111 wrote:Can you people please get your act together and start producing a product that works for people, instead of falling back on the lame excuse that 'your camera isn't officially compatible with our product', because apparently almost NO camera is officially compatible.


Have you honestly gone to:

http://support.eye.fi/product-info/came ... my-camera/

and typed in various brand names or model numbers and checked out the results?

If you're specifically interested in Sony models, here are a few I picked out of the list:

a33
a55
nex-3
nex-5
w360

Also, as you can see at:

http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/camera-c ... abs=1#sony

there are many Sony cameras that are not only compatible, but are Eye-Fi connected and provide on-screen display of Eye-Fi operation status. If you're interested in other brands (as far as I can tell, your main issue is with a Sony camera), feel free to do similar searches for those brands, too.

Its a piece of shit and you people need to... go into another line of work.


That's good to know - thanks for the objective assessment and the suggestion.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:30 pm

I have no idea. I'm just incredibly annoyed that I see the statement 'no adapter will ever work with a D700 for eyefi' and then a quick google search leads me to a video of someone apparently using an eyefi with an adapter on a D700.


You certainly sound annoyed. I'm hearing you. This is a technique I learned from being married for 15 years. Listen, repeat, and only THEN, comment :-)

The reason that no adapter will probably ever work for the D700 is that the D700 is Type I, and all the adapters in the market are Type II. So even if there was an adapter that we supported, one day in the future, it would likely not fit into the D700. This was the reason for me asking -- how the YouTube video was created. So my guess is -- someone took the adapter, took it apart, glued or soldiered the Eye-Fi Card to the PCB of the adapter, and inserted it into the D700. I've done that before. It's geeky and not fun at all (and yes, it works). Hence -- UNSUPPORTED.

Aren't you an eyefi employee?


I am, I'm one of the founders, and the one that's been looking at CF, since day 1, the most. I'm also a pro...

How does your company know so little about your own product?


You took my question on the YouTube video, out of context, because you're so angry at us for not having CF. Please give us the benefit of the doubt that we actually know what we're talking about.

Can you people please get your act together and start producing a product that works for people, instead of falling back on the lame excuse that 'your camera isn't officially compatible with our product', because apparently almost NO camera is officially compatible.


This statement is completely untrue. Go to our camera compatibility page, start typing a camera brand, like Canon, for example, which is the #1 camera OEM in the market, and find a model that isn't compatible. Then, repeat for other brands. There are a handful of cameras that don't work. There are hundreds or thousands of models.

http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/camera-c ... postTabs=0

Not only are most cameras compatible, most NEW'ish cameras from the top brands, with the top selling models -- are Eye-Fi Connected.

http://www.eye.fi/how-it-works/camera-c ... postTabs=1

Its literally been over a year now that I've been lurking on these forums and looking at your product, and it just doesn't appear to work. Its a piece of shit and you people need to either FINALLLLLLLLLY work out the problems (you've had plenty of time), or go into another line of work.


Your perception is completely incorrect. Our product doesn't work FOR YOU. Look at our homepage -- bottom left corner. Do you see the counter of 100,000,000+ images and videos transferred from Eye-Fi Cards? Now go and look at our awards. Now, go and look at our reviews... OK, I'll stop... :-)

I'm sending my eyefi pro x2 back for a refund because it doesn't work at all on my sony a200. Yes yes, its not an officially compatible camera...but then again, what camera is?


Sorry to see you go. Your a200 is not compatible. That is true. It's a CF camera. NO CF CAMERA is supported. Sony's latest cameras ARE supported, and are beautifully Eye-Fi Connected.

Because I went through your compatibility list and there is almost nothing listed on it.


That's because it's not a list. It's a searchable page. Start by typing the camera brand, and you'll see the cameras pop-up, automatically.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg on Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:43 pm

info@verges.ch wrote:Heureka !!

My Eye-Fi 8GB Pro X2 will function with the Canon EOS 5d Mark II
I habe buyed an new DeLock Compact Flash Adapter for SDXC, Manufactur No 61796

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I know U're wondering: "Is it true?"

IT IS NOT!!! IT IS NOT!!!

Just Kidding. I've tried 5d2 + Eye-Fi 8g Pro X2 + DeLock Compact Flash Adapter for SDXC, Manufactur No 61796
and have good results - 15 shots /small JPGs/ transferred as a charm for about 6seconds each. 5m from the router.
I just made some shots- about 8m from the router with concrete wall between. Still working. I wonder what will be the result if the metal plates are removed from the adapter.
After 2 weeks will post more detail about 5d2 + Eye-Fi 8g Pro X2 + DeLock Compact Flash Adapter for SDXC, Manufactur No 61796 + iPad + ShutterSnitch
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:26 pm

You're funny :-)

Ya, if you remove the front metal plate (leave the back metal plate there) -- you should get better range. You still won't get great range, because of the sleeve that's enclosing the SD card, but it'll improve things a bit. The range will also depend on which router you're using. A solid N router will make things better.

Again, a reminder -- totally unsupported by Eye-Fi.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg on Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:23 pm

Hi there
Guys from Eye-Fi team - I can see your point of view and respect it, but I believe there is a line waiting... so I'll post some result from the unsupported adapter.
Working great + iPad & ShutterSnitch. 5-7secs for a file /S JPG/, 5m are OK, but no more... /I use small not so powerfull router/, when I remove the front plate I'lll post more results. And if there is a corupted file I'll post it here immediately.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:39 pm

360bg wrote:Hi there
Guys from Eye-Fi team - I can see your point of view and respect it, but I believe there is a line waiting... so I'll post some result from the unsupported adapter.
Working great + iPad & ShutterSnitch. 5-7secs for a file /S JPG/, 5m are OK, but no more... /I use small not so powerfull router/, when I remove the front plate I'lll post more results. And if there is a corupted file I'll post it here immediately.


Thanks. I don't think that you'll get corruption. It should be pretty solid. But we can't support it because it only works on a handful of cameras. I don't know many UDMA Type II cameras other than the 7D and the 5DmkII... So if an adapter doesn't work across the board, we can't support it officially...

Thanks for the report --

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby davidshenyh on Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:37 pm

i am newcomer, don't understand why need router for eye-fi pro card? i saw that it can transfer to wireless laptop or ipad, right?

now 5d2 can be exact workable by DeLock Adapter? i am going to buy if it is true.. i bought eye-fi pro with few useless adapter already..... :x
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg on Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:46 am

The adapter is working definitely, but iPad has to be jailbroken if U want to use it as a router. The range will be smaller than a ordinary router.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby davidshenyh on Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:36 am

many thanks.. my ipad had been jailbroken already...

going to check where to buy it. i am in China maybe quite difficult to buy it..
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:33 pm

360bg wrote:The adapter is working definitely, but iPad has to be jailbroken if U want to use it as a router. The range will be smaller than a ordinary router.


Here are 2 links with more info on why, etc...:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_ ... 0055-10851
http://fstoppers.com/ipad/

BUT

Notice how Eye-Fi announced Eye-Fi Direct at CES:

http://www.eye.fi/blog/new-at-ces-direct-mode

This means that once we release that free firmware upgrade and free apps, you won't need to jailbreak your iPad, to upload directly. But until then, yes, if you want to bypass using an extra router, and you want to get photos to your iPad, you'll need to jailbreak, which of course isn't supported by either Eye-Fi nor Apple.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg on Fri Jan 14, 2011 1:53 pm

Some more results:
Plates-removed /it quite easy whit this adapter/. Range-improved. Speed-improved.
About 200shots - no problem at all.
...BUT I had ERR 02 when tried the old 5d - 30 shot 3 times I recieved ERR 02
Soon I'll make about 400 shots every day and will write here for the stability of the components.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:42 pm

360bg wrote:Some more results:
Plates-removed /it quite easy whit this adapter/. Range-improved. Speed-improved.
About 200shots - no problem at all.
...BUT I had ERR 02 when tried the old 5d - 30 shot 3 times I recieved ERR 02
Soon I'll make about 400 shots every day and will write here for the stability of the components.


Remember -- this adapter works ONLY in UDMA cameras. The old 5D didn't support UDMA. So I would stick with the 7D and 5DmkII.

We also tried it in a Nikon D70 and a Canon 40D. Didn't work, because neither of them support UDMA.

Thanks for the update on the improved speed and range. Makes sense :-)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:56 pm

BTW, doing a quick search on DPReview, for UDMA support, yields the following current cameras:

Canon EOS 1D Mark IV (but this camera is Eye-Fi Connected and has an SD slot, so it makes 0 sense to use an adapter here)
Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon EOS 50D
Canon EOS 7D
Nikon D3X
Sony Alpha DSLR-A900
Sony Alpha DSLR-A850

and these are older models, that support UDMA:

Sony Alpha DSLR-A350
Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III (but it has an SD slot)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby rbucich on Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:37 am

As the owner of a 1Ds III and former owner of the 1D III, I can confirm that the 1Ds IS UDMA while the 1D is not.
Just about all other aspects of the cameras are the same with the exception of the obvious (frame rate and sensor size).

The Eye-Fi cards have worked great in every 1D body I have tried them on (1D II, 1D III & 1Ds III)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:55 am

rbucich wrote:As the owner of a 1Ds III and former owner of the 1D III, I can confirm that the 1Ds IS UDMA while the 1D is not.
Just about all other aspects of the cameras are the same with the exception of the obvious (frame rate and sensor size).

The Eye-Fi cards have worked great in every 1D body I have tried them on (1D II, 1D III & 1Ds III)


Perfect. Updated the list :-)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby cliffmurphy on Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:48 am

Anyone have a working link to purchase the DeLock Compact Flash Adapter for SDXC, #61796?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:09 pm

I browsed the forum and found this:

http://www.delock.com/kaufen/reseller.html?country=USA

Again, to be completely transparent, I have to remind you -- this is unsupported by Eye-Fi.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg on Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:44 pm

Again, to be completely transparent, I have to remind you -- this is unsupported by Eye-Fi.
Thanks --Ziv.

And I have to be completely transparent, will share the truth for the moment - more than 300 shots /with 5d2/ - no problem AT ALL. The last 2 days I'm shooting RAW+sJPG in a studio. iPad /+shutersnitch/ router /G not N/- 5m distance is not a problem and few second after the shot I've got 10" preview.
... after 1 year of thinking before the purchase - Sooo HAPPYyyyy with EYE-Fi 8G PRO X2.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:50 pm

360bg wrote:
Again, to be completely transparent, I have to remind you -- this is unsupported by Eye-Fi.
Thanks --Ziv.

And I have to be completely transparent, will share the truth for the moment - more than 300 shots /with 5d2/ - no problem AT ALL. The last 2 days I'm shooting RAW+sJPG in a studio. iPad /+shutersnitch/ router /G not N/- 5m distance is not a problem and few second after the shot I've got 10" preview.
... after 1 year of thinking before the purchase - Sooo HAPPYyyyy with EYE-Fi 8G PRO X2.


Awesome. Thank you for keeping us in the loop :-)

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:04 am

Here is an easy way to get the adapter, from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004K079UU

I verified with the adapter manufacturer, and this is the correct product as he "DeLock" adapter that's in this thread. DeLock is a brand in Europe, but the one that is selling on Amazon is the non-branded version, by the adapter manufacturer. They are identical.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg on Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:43 am

May I ask what to do if the pics are stuck in the card /5d2/ and don't transfer to a iPad /through Shutersnitch/. Everything goes fine until a moment when it stops to transfer and the pics remain in the card... if I make new collection in Shutersnitch I'm back in the game.
Both camera and iPad are set to switch off after 15min, and are fully charged... I shoot in constant speed- pic every minute, ... I'm afraid to format the card, and still is not formated, if these things make sence.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:48 am

I would recommend contacting shutter snitch :-) He has a support forum, answers emails, and is an all around awesome guy :-)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby cliffmurphy on Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:47 am

I can confirm that the Canon 7d and the 5d MK2 both work with the Delock #61796 sd to cf adapter. Transferring perfectly with no errors.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:32 am

cliffmurphy wrote:I can confirm that the Canon 7d and the 5d MK2 both work with the Delock #61796 sd to cf adapter. Transferring perfectly with no errors.


Great. What are your thoughts about the write speed?
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:45 pm

UPDATE:

With the latest Eye-Fi firmware 5.0001, the X2 card + UDMA CF adapter combo DOES NOT work in the 5DmkII and 7D.


BTW, I wanted to keep everyone current. We'll take a bit of a different approach with this one, and ask you, our users, for help.

All testing should be done with an X2 card.

Eye-Fi users out there, if you'd like to help test this adapter, get it from B&H, and test it with any of the following UDMA based cameras. Keep us posted. Based on your feedback, we'll decide if it should be supported, or not:

UDMA Type II bodies:

Canon EOS 7D (some users have been reporting ERR 02's, even with the latest 7D firmware)
Canon EOS 1D Mark IV (but this camera is Eye-Fi Connected and has an SD slot, so it makes 0 sense to use an adapter here)
Canon EOS 5D Mark II (some users have been reporting ERR 02's, even with the latest 5DmkII firmware)
Canon EOS 50D
Canon EOS 7D
Nikon D3X
Nikon D3
Nikon D300
Sony Alpha DSLR-A900
Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III (but it has an SD slot)

Here is the B&H link:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/8 ... to_CF.html

Thx --

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