Canon 5D mk II

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby rbucich » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:24 pm

Ziv,

Although I have the 1Ds III and soon 1D IV, I just picked up the card adapter purely for testing purposes.
Will be happy to report back the results.

I'm curious what will happen with an adapter (with Eye-Fi) in the CF slot and SD Eye-Fi card in the other and shoot to both with same resolution.
Will Eye-Fi have difficulty processing two identical files simultaneously?

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:56 pm

Rick,

Awesome question. I wish that every Canon pro user had 2 Eye-Fi Cards in their DSLR :-)

No problem in having 2 cards. It's just like having 2 cards in the D7000. You can have RAW go to one, and JPG to another, backups, one going locally, another to the cloud, etc... The possibilities are endless :-)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby MORCIK » Tue Feb 01, 2011 8:51 am

Just registered to tell that the combination of the DeLock 61796 and Eye-Fi Pro X2 8GB works like a charm with my 5D MKII. Just made one of my first pictures and transfered it wirelessly with this combination :)

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:27 am

great, thank you. Please try to use it heavily, and let us know if you see any issues.

Thx,

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby MORCIK » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:23 pm

Tried burst with RAW+JPG. Until 10 pictures 4 FPS, and then slowed down. Camera displays 'busy'. It took a while until the photos were written on the card, but no error messages.

Made a movie of 1.5GB, no problems. Looks good so far :D
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:35 pm

Ya, I think that my D300s has a similar sized buffer. But as the buffer is being written to the card, you should be able to keep shooting, albeit at a slower rate.

Thanks for reporting.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby dulgee » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:05 pm

I'd be glad to test! just send me an eye-fi card and an adapter ;-)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:10 pm

dulgee wrote:I'd be glad to test! just send me an eye-fi card and an adapter ;-)


:-)

The adapter is $14.98 on Amazon
Eye-Fi X2 Cards start at less than $49: http://www.eye.fi/where-to-buy
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby drac0linux » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:08 pm

If anyone could confirm this works for a Canon 40D as well, I may have a reason to re-purchase a Pro X2 card again.

I've subscribed to this thread, I hope to see good news!
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:20 pm

drac0linux wrote:If anyone could confirm this works for a Canon 40D as well, I may have a reason to re-purchase a Pro X2 card again.

I've subscribed to this thread, I hope to see good news!


Please read the thread carefully. The 40D isn't supported with this adapter, since it's not a UDMA camera.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby drac0linux » Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:47 pm

Well, tha sucks. I just followed the link from twitter and obviously didn't read the whole thing since the link Eye-fi tweeted took me to page 4. I'm crushed now. No new Eye-fi for me any time soon then.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:53 pm

drac0linux wrote:Well, tha sucks. I just followed the link from twitter and obviously didn't read the whole thing since the link Eye-fi tweeted took me to page 4. I'm crushed now. No new Eye-fi for me any time soon then.


For your 40D, here is more info:

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_ ... 0055-10851

But that's a totally separate thread from this topc, and I'd like to keep this thread on the UDMA adapter and on UDMA bodies.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby hdpete » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:22 am

Hi,

Great thread! I too have a 5D MkII and I shoot in Raw, so I'll need the Pro x2, but any idea where I can find a cheap supplier of the DeLock 61796 in the UK?

Amazon only seem to have US & German suppliers who don't ship to the UK.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:47 pm

hdpete wrote:Hi,

Great thread! I too have a 5D MkII and I shoot in Raw, so I'll need the Pro x2, but any idea where I can find a cheap supplier of the DeLock 61796 in the UK?

Amazon only seem to have US & German suppliers who don't ship to the UK.

Cheers
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Pete,

I'll try to find out.

full disclosure: this is still unsupported by Eye-Fi.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby rbucich » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:51 am

Got my adapter today from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004K079UU

Initial test with Canon 1Ds III with two cards inserted, one in CF adapter, the other SD slot, both set to small .jpg.
Both configured identically and set to upload to separate folders on the same computer.

In this configuration, neither card will upload images. Remove either and the uploading begins. It appears that they will alternate, when one completes, the other may begin.

With the unaltered CF adapter installed and uploading images I progressively moved the camera away from the router (line of sight) until the speed became unusable. The outer limit seemed to be about 15 feet, any more and things slowed to a crawl.

Perhaps both cards can work simultaneously if they upload to separate computers, haven't tried yet.
Just wanted to report back very preliminary findings.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby rbucich » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:19 am

Follow up -

Attempted to shoot to two different computers this morning using a Canon 1Ds III using both card slots, with SD eye-fi to one with the other in an adapter uploading to another computer.
This time it works, photos began streaming to each computer almost simultaneously. I was pretty close to the router at the time however.

One thing to note, using selective upload only works on one card so the other has to be set to upload immediately.

At one point I did try to shoot with just the SD/CF adapter combo and received a Err02 message. This may be attributed partly to having the camera set to write to two cards when only one was present.

In-camera formatting worked just fine.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:55 am

rbucich wrote:Got my adapter today from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004K079UU

Initial test with Canon 1Ds III with two cards inserted, one in CF adapter, the other SD slot, both set to small .jpg.
Both configured identically and set to upload to separate folders on the same computer.

In this configuration, neither card will upload images. Remove either and the uploading begins. It appears that they will alternate, when one completes, the other may begin.

With the unaltered CF adapter installed and uploading images I progressively moved the camera away from the router (line of sight) until the speed became unusable. The outer limit seemed to be about 15 feet, any more and things slowed to a crawl.

Perhaps both cards can work simultaneously if they upload to separate computers, haven't tried yet.
Just wanted to report back very preliminary findings.


Hi Rick,

Having both cards go to the same computer should work. Could you please try it again? If you put the 2 cards into card readers, or the two cards into 2 cameras, or the 2 cards into the same camera -- as long as they get power -- they should upload. We also know that the Eye-Fi Helper can accept images and videos from several cards, so yes, it should work.

The range may depend on the router, obstacles, etc... But I'm guessing that you'll get better range from the SD slot, then from the card that's in the adapter.

Thx --

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:00 pm

Attempted to shoot to two different computers this morning using a Canon 1Ds III using both card slots, with SD eye-fi to one with the other in an adapter uploading to another computer.
This time it works, photos began streaming to each computer almost simultaneously. I was pretty close to the router at the time however.


Awesome. But please see my earlier post. It should also work to the same computer...

One thing to note, using selective upload only works on one card so the other has to be set to upload immediately.


Well, if the camera doesn't let you choose which ones to lock or protect -- then you could only have 1 of them in Selective Transfer or Selective Share mode. But if the through some super advanced feature in the camera, you can lock either slot's JPG's or RAW files -- you could put both cards into selective modes.

At one point I did try to shoot with just the SD/CF adapter combo and received a Err02 message. This may be attributed partly to having the camera set to write to two cards when only one was present.


Could you please, if you can, do a low-level format on the cards (even in another camera), first, and then try to use them in the adapter? I found that doing a low-level format makes a difference, vs. just doing a high-level format. Not all cameras have a low-level format feature, but at least the Canon point & shoots do :-) I also know that the T2i has that.

In-camera formatting worked just fine.


Awesome.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby lindvall » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:27 pm

I just got one of these and a Pro X2 and tried them with my Canon 30D and found that it will upload some photos, but after taking a few shots the LCD says:

Err02: There is a problem with the CD Card. Replace the CF card.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:28 pm

lindvall wrote:I just got one of these and a Pro X2 and tried them with my Canon 30D and found that it will upload some photos, but after taking a few shots the LCD says:

Err02: There is a problem with the CD Card. Replace the CF card.


The 30D is not supported. Please look at the list of cameras that I mentioned. The 30D is not a UDMA camera, so it will not work:

Canon EOS 1D Mark IV (but this camera is Eye-Fi Connected and has an SD slot, so it makes 0 sense to use an adapter here)
Canon EOS 5D Mark II
Canon EOS 50D
Canon EOS 7D
Nikon D3X
Sony Alpha DSLR-A900
Sony Alpha DSLR-A850
Sony Alpha DSLR-A350
Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III (but it has an SD slot)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby Steveooo » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:08 pm

hdpete wrote:Hi,

Great thread! I too have a 5D MkII and I shoot in Raw, so I'll need the Pro x2, but any idea where I can find a cheap supplier of the DeLock 61796 in the UK?

Amazon only seem to have US & German suppliers who don't ship to the UK.

Cheers
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Amazon UK now have the DeLock 61796 available to order from a seller called soteluk, but they want £29.49 + £4.99 postage!!!!!!! Considering its available from Amazon in the US for less than $15 I would say we are being ripped-off!
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:18 pm

Then you should contact the seller in the UK, through Amazon, and let them know...
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby jmich » Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:27 pm

Hi,
Here is my experience so far - sorry for my english, I'm french.
I bought a SDXCF - SD/SDHC/SDXC to High-Speed Extreme CF Type II Adapter - $19.98 from http://www.shopdigi.com (less than one week to get it in Belgium - Europe, thanks guys 8) ).
Tried it with EYE-FI 8G ProX2 in 5DmkII.
Without modification, distance between router and camera maximum 2 meters (6 feet) :( !
I modify the adaptor with the "Rob Galbraith's write-up on how to modify CF adapter", only take out the upper metal part.
Good surprise : 8 meters (25 feet) between router and camera and still sending photos :D . I'll try tomorrow to find out the farest I can send pictures.
Time to send a RAW picture (between 25MB and 30MB) : nearly 50 secondes.
Configuration : WiFi router from belgian telephon company - HP server running Windows Server.
I also have to experience the ProX2 on the 50D.
So far so good ... :D
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:00 pm

Thank you for the update. Can you also let us know what you think of the write speed on both cameras?

The range will also vary based on the router and the channel. If you have a solid N router you could have more range. But also, simply changing the channel could have effects on range.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg » Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:44 pm

So far /DeLock+5d2/: hundreds of RAW+sJPG, no problem at all. Everything goes fine. Even with the metal plates I had 5m and a wall between the camera and router. Expirinced some delays, but found it was Shutersnitch problem, great app anyway.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:06 pm

360bg wrote:So far /DeLock+5d2/: hundreds of RAW+sJPG, no problem at all. Everything goes fine. Even with the metal plates I had 5m and a wall between the camera and router. Expirinced some delays, but found it was Shutersnitch problem, great app anyway.


Awesome. How's the write speed?
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby jmich » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:12 am

EOS 50D :
write speed : 6 sec - RAW+JPEG - 20Mb (less than 2 sec with a SanDisk 32gb Extreme)
continous shoot : 12 RAW+JPEG at max fps

EOS 5DmkII :
write speed : 12 sec - RAW+JPEG - 30Mb (less than 2 sec with a SanDisk 32gb Extreme)
continous shoot : 11 RAW+JPEG at max fps
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby jmich » Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:31 am

Update :
transfer time between two adapters : 5DmkII - RAW+JPEG 30Mb
SDXCF : 50 sec
DeLock : 35 sec
same write speed

It seems that the DeLock adapter has less loss of WiFi signal.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:38 am

An update from me also with 5d2
DeLock /removed metal plates/:
50pics /RAW+sJPG/ 2m distance- average speed for transfer -9.5sec
50pics /RAW+sJPG/ 5m distance- average speed for transfer - 10sec
50pics /RAW+sJPG/ 9m distance- average speed for transfer - 10.2sec
To write the images in the buffer - 80sec.
Yesterday was the biggest test for me- I shoot seniors a lot- http://www.360bg.net/school_leavers.php
the last 3 years I had to shoot 30-50 images and to change cards and empty the pics in a laptop to let the kids choose the pics for their albums... a Lot of pain when U are under pressure. My studio is big and cable is not a solution.
I was waiting for that day to write- SOoooo happy with X2 8G + DeLock + iPad that I can't express :) I don't bother for the delay of 10sec. When I started to shoot some of the kids that is shy gay... after 10sec someone from the waiting room where is the iPad was shouting - "Yo man, the pics are awesome! Don't be so shy!" ... it was quite, quite easier for me.
Soon I'he to make the same procedure outside from the studio when the weather is good for sessions outside... hope for releasing the update for direct transfer to the iPad.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:40 pm

jmich wrote:EOS 50D :
write speed : 6 sec - RAW+JPEG - 20Mb (less than 2 sec with a SanDisk 32gb Extreme)
continous shoot : 12 RAW+JPEG at max fps

EOS 5DmkII :
write speed : 12 sec - RAW+JPEG - 30Mb (less than 2 sec with a SanDisk 32gb Extreme)
continous shoot : 11 RAW+JPEG at max fps


Thank you. What are your thoughts and opinions on the write speeds, knowing that it's slower than fast CF cards?
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