Canon 5D mk II

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Canon 5D mk II

Postby rnienburg on Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:44 am

I use it with a CF adapter, which really cuts down the range, but it mostly works. Would be REAL nice if they'd make a CF format pro card.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby hyachts on Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:01 pm

I'd recommend taking off the metal plates to maximize the range, and additionally I'd recommend keeping the card as empty as possible. I've recently seen a lot of file corruption with my two CF adapters, and the incidence is MUCH higher when the card is mostly full. I mean blocks of photos - ten or fifteen at a whack.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby 360bg on Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:14 pm

Unfortunately there is no solution until now for CF, so we'll hope to see soon Eye-Fi CF Pro
Would U shere with us the 'new' range? What about the speed for RAW file? And the last- the model for the adapter. I've got 5d2 and hope that soon will use Eye-Fe in the body instead of cable.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby dobm on Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:50 pm

hyachts wrote:I'd recommend taking off the metal plates to maximize the range, and additionally I'd recommend keeping the card as empty as possible. I've recently seen a lot of file corruption with my two CF adapters, and the incidence is MUCH higher when the card is mostly full. I mean blocks of photos - ten or fifteen at a whack.


What are your thoughts on this? Do you consider that the card write speed is insufficient or even that the adapters write speed is perhaps causing corruptions?
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby dobm on Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:24 pm

More tests...

Using a Eye-Fi Pro 4GB shooting RAW (full size), the camera buffer suggested I had a buffer of 13 shots, but shooting stopped at 12 shots whilst files were written to the memory card. It took 75 seconds after the last taken photograph before all files were written to the card. No corruption and all was fine.

Thought I try some full HD video which from this camera's huge sensor, is probably the drop dead test for write speed.

Eye-Fi PRO 4GB took 11-12 seconds of video before the buffer filled-up and video stopped. No corruption.

SanDisk Ultra II (15MB/s) Class 4 SDHC card - exactly the same as the Eye-Fi PRO 4GB - 11-12 seconds of video before the buffer filled up.

Unbranded 16GB Class 6 (allegedly) SDHC card - took 6 seconds of video before the buffer filled-up and video stopped. No corruption. Now this proves that unbranded cards can be a dangerous choice. This card was certainly NOT a class 6 device!

SanDisk Ultra III (20MB/s) Class 6 SDHC card 11-14 seconds of video before the buffer filled-up and video stopped. No corruption.

This then appears to be a limit of the SDHC to Compact Flash adapter. I don't know if faster adapters are available, but if not then no faster Eye-Fi card will be suitable for recording 1080p video in the Canon EOS 5D MkII.

Conclusion: The Eye-Fi Pro appears to be similar in performance with a brand leading SanDisk Ultra II class 4 device. Faster SDHC cards make no difference and therefore no SDHC card is suitable for recording video on the Canon 5D MkII unless a faster SDHC to Compact Flash adapter becomes available.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby rick79 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:00 pm

I just went through some exhaustive testing with my 5D Mark II and Eye-Fi Pro.

All seems good - range is less than 15 feet for sure with my SD to CD card adapter, and I'm not willing yet to pull the metal out (not sure how it's done).

Full 21MP RAW files + small jpg will take about 10-12 seconds to upload... I find that slow but I guess we are bound to the limitations of the SD card read/transfer speed + wifi technology. Perhaps when I'm shooting at the studio with distractions around me, 12 seconds won't seem that long!

One issue though and I haven't been able to figure out... if I don't transfer any pictures for a few minutes, it almost appears that something goes to sleep... I'll take new pictures, and nothing transfers... It will take up to 1-3 test shots before it starts uploading. I checked my camera settings and it's set to never turn off, so something else must be going to sleep. The files are being exported directly to my desktop - no remote/usb drive that could fall asleep.

Other than that... I believe this card can be a viable option before indulging in the Canon WFT for 1000$!
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby bowserb on Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:41 am

rick79 wrote:I just went through some exhaustive testing with my 5D Mark II and Eye-Fi Pro.

All seems good - range is less than 15 feet for sure with my SD to CD card adapter, and I'm not willing yet to pull the metal out (not sure how it's done).

Full 21MP RAW files + small jpg will take about 10-12 seconds to upload... I find that slow but I guess we are bound to the limitations of the SD card read/transfer speed + wifi technology. Perhaps when I'm shooting at the studio with distractions around me, 12 seconds won't seem that long!

One issue though and I haven't been able to figure out... if I don't transfer any pictures for a few minutes, it almost appears that something goes to sleep... I'll take new pictures, and nothing transfers... It will take up to 1-3 test shots before it starts uploading. I checked my camera settings and it's set to never turn off, so something else must be going to sleep. The files are being exported directly to my desktop - no remote/usb drive that could fall asleep.

Other than that... I believe this card can be a viable option before indulging in the Canon WFT for 1000$!

Hey Rick, I just heard of eyefi yesterday. I shoot my 5D2 in the studio--and other places--tethered to a laptop using Breeze Systems DSLR Pro and a USB cable. Usually there is someone looking at the laptop screen after each shot, which appears full screen on the laptop (with large external monitor) in about a second. This is RAW only. A wireless connection would be more convenient and less risky. However, 10-12 seconds is a long time for some people. My questions:

Which eyefi are you using? I see a ProX2 with 802.11n. Is yours G or N?
What brand/model of CF/SD adapter are you using?
Have you come to suspect any ill effects from using the CF adapter? Does the thing feel hot when you remove it?

BTW, the Canon unit is "only" $700...but it's also 802.11G, not N. Same for the brand new wireless unit for the 7D--802.11G!

Thanks for your comments.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby dobm on Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:35 am

Hi browserb,

I've exchanged private messages with Rik and his transfer speed did NOT include the RAW file.

I suggest you look at the 'Fast enough for this' thread as I have some detailed timings which were gained from various file sizes from a Canon 5D MkII using a Eye-Fi PRO 4GB ''g' card.



Regards




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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby John Radford on Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:47 pm

"One issue though and I haven't been able to figure out... if I don't transfer any pictures for a few minutes, it almost appears that something goes to sleep... I'll take new pictures, and nothing transfers... It will take up to 1-3 test shots before it starts uploading. I checked my camera settings and it's set to never turn off, so something else must be going to sleep. The files are being exported directly to my desktop - no remote/usb drive that could fall asleep."


Same here. Any ideas? I just took some photos and now it won't upload them :(
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ykoren on Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:29 am

After a period of inactivity, the Eye-Fi card will disconnect from the network to conserve battery. Taking another shot will then trigger re-association to the network and the target computer before uploads can resume. If you have a chance to check out the new Canon T2i/550D, you can see all these phases animated on the camera display during a live shoot.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby Magiceye on Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:58 am

Hi
I recently purchased two cards at the Birmingham UK photo show, one for my wife the home version, and after extensive chatting to the sales rep on the Jessops stand, the Pro (4gig ) for me.

I wanted something that I could use in my studio with 5D Mk2 and Mk1 and would download the photos when I was out of range of any wi-fi ( otherwise I would have purchased the much cheaper one for her, and stuck with my USB lead ) my wifes works as it should and she is happy, me I am really unhappy because my unit only works the same as hers not as sold to me by the agent, it does not work on any laptop without wi-fi ( I have 3 ) that has been configured with the unit.

I have written to eye-eye-Fi to see what they have to say, but have had no reply as of yet, I will wait a little longer, and if I hear nothing I will be contacting the OFT and complaining about misselling and units not fit for purpose.

When I purchased I was told a quick setup was required then I could download in any area, this was specific as that is what I wanted it to do, without hard connection, I was told as long as the original laptop was within 45 feet ( outside ) 85 feet ( inside) this does not do that, and from what you guys are saying it wont do that, I have not got time to fart about playing and trying to get it working, purchased it to do a Job, so far it has not, so I feel really conned out of around £100, but we will see if they have and answer, otherwise I will be demanding a full refund on the unit..
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby dmourati on Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:55 am

Magiceye wrote:Hi
the Pro (4gig ) ... does not work on any laptop without wi-fi ( I have 3 ) that has been configured with the unit.



I'm sorry you are having trouble with your pro card. I think what you are trying to do is setup an Ad Hoc connection between your card and a laptop. Please follow these instructions:

http://support.eye.fi/how-to-connect-an ... c-network/

You need to add this ad hoc network to your card.

If this is not what you meant, please explain in greater detail what you are trying to setup.

Thanks.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby Æmagine on Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:26 pm

I have the Pro X2 8MB Card. My Canon 5D mk II cannot format the card for use in the camera. Same result on the initial firmware release and current firmware release for the 5D mk II
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby info@verges.ch on Tue May 04, 2010 4:59 am

I have the same Problem:
- I have a Canon EOS 5d Mark II
- a Eye-Fi 8GB Pro X2 Card
- a Adapter CompactFlash to SD-Card

But my Canon will not function with it.
He say, the Card must be formated.
Then i go to Format the Card in the Canon menu and the Camera will not Format it !!

Can you help me please ?
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby Canon7D_Owner on Fri May 07, 2010 10:17 pm

I was very happy to got the new Eye-Fi 8Gb Pro X2 .

But this card does not work in the Canon 7D and not in the 5 D MkII. I tried different CF / SD - adapter without success. I paid 130 € for nothing well.
I am very angry about it. All my SD and SDHC - cards work with all adapter in the cameras, only the new Eye-Fi Pro X2 8 Gb does it not. This is not a problem from Canon, which is one of Eye-Fi!.
I hope that the manufacturer makes this quite a quick update or withdraw the card!
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby Eye-fly on Sat May 08, 2010 8:54 am

I have now one question:

Is it a hardware issue or can it fix with a new firmware on the Eye-Fi card?

Than knows of I must sell my X2 Pro card :(
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby mjeppsen on Mon May 10, 2010 8:33 pm

Does anyone know if the issue with the 5D MKII is a problem with the Eye-Fi X2 8GB, or something to do with the Canon 5DM2 firmware?
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby bowserb on Mon May 10, 2010 8:48 pm

It seems to me, after lots of reading, that our problem is not with Eye-Fi, who is delivering exactly what they advertise, but with our own preference to have their device do more than they claim it will do. They don't advertise that a CF-SD adapter will work. It is us who want it to and then get upset that it doesn't do more than it was designed and advertised to do.

I think our only remaining complaint can be that Eye-Fi STILL DOES NOT HAVE A CF VERSION of their 8GB 802.11n device. And now it's taken so long that it really needs to be a 16GB 802.11n card.

Still waiting.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby agiannot on Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:26 am

I also have a Canon 5D MK II, an eye-fi Connect X2 4GB card, and a Synchrotech CFMulti CompactFlash Type II to Eye-Fi™ + Multi-Card Adapter. This combination does not work with the Canon 5D. I believe this is because the Eye-FI 4GB Connect X2 I am using is a SDHC card, and is most likely incompatible.

When I use a standard SD (not SDHC) memory card in the Canon, the card works fine, but a SDHC memory card does not. I am wondering if any of the older (non-HC) variants of the eye-fi cards will correct the problems people are experiencing with the Canon 5D/eye-fi combination?

Can any of the users posting to this thread that are successfully using a Canon 5D MK II & an eye-fi card provide details on which eye-fi card specifically they are using? (and if it is an SD vs SDHC eye-fi card)
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby randhirv on Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:25 am

agiannot, Eye-Fi does not recommend the use of CF adapters since they reduce Wi-Fi range, cause occasional photo corruption or don't work at all.

The Eye-Fi X2 cards do not work with adapters in Canon DSLRs at all as you have experienced. Some users have reported that the Eye-Fi "Classic" cards do work with CF adapters in Canon DSLRs (including the 4GB SDHC cards), but please note our warning about CF adapters.

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby macrylinda1 on Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:27 pm

John Radford wrote:"One issue though and I haven't been able to figure out... if I don't transfer any pictures for a few minutes, it almost appears that something goes to sleep... I'll take new pictures, and nothing transfers... It will take up to 1-3 test shots before it starts uploading. I checked my camera settings and it's set to never turn off, so something else must be going to sleep. The files are being exported directly to my desktop - no remote/usb drive that could fall asleep."


Same here. Any ideas? I just took some photos and now it won't upload them :(

After a period of inactivity, the Eye-Fi card will disconnect from the network to conserve battery. Taking another shot will then trigger re-association to the network and the target computer before uploads can resume. If you have a chance to check out the new Canon T2i/550D, you can see all these phases animated on the camera display during a live shoot.
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby info@verges.ch on Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:11 am

Heureka !!

My Eye-Fi 8GB Pro X2 will function with the Canon EOS 5d Mark II
I habe buyed an new DeLock Compact Flash Adapter for SDXC, Manufactur No 61796

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby daz on Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:18 am

info@verges.ch wrote:Heureka !!

My Eye-Fi 8GB Pro X2 will function with the Canon EOS 5d Mark II
I habe buyed an new DeLock Compact Flash Adapter for SDXC, Manufactur No 61796

regards
Felix



Could you please give us an url where we can buy the right one?
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby info@verges.ch on Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:53 am

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby daz on Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:55 am

info@verges.ch wrote:http://www.google.com


Thanks so much. you're so helpful.....
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby info@verges.ch on Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:07 am

where you want to buy it ? Where you come from ? If you are in switzerland, you can order it from me. Google find any shops over the world...
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby info@verges.ch on Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:08 am

search for
I habe buyed an new DeLock Compact Flash Adapter for SDXC, Manufactur No 61796
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby azenis on Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:54 am

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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby info@verges.ch on Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:57 am

why do you need more than a manufacture and a article number ?
search on google for "delock 61796" so, you have the right !!
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Re: Canon 5D mk II

Postby ziv on Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:01 pm

People,

Here is the latest scoop on the DeLock adapter:

It only works with UDMA based cameras. The 5DmkII is UDMA based, so it should work. Eye-Fi HAS NOT verified this, and HAS NOT done extensive testing on this adapter, because it doesn't work across the board, in all cameras.

Eye-Fi will probably NOT test this adapter extensively, for the reason stated above. We've put it into a 40D, and it didn't work. We also put it into an old Nikon D70, and it didn't work. Those cameras are not UDMA based, so it simply doesn't work, with any SD card.

So maybe the only good news here is that the adapter should work with the 5DmkII and the 7D, and should have good write and read performance.

Furthermore, please note, you will probably not get a lot of Wi-Fi range, because the adapter has a lot of metal around the SD card. You may want to re-read Rob Galbraith's write-up on how to modify the adapter, to give you better range.

Thx --

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