Canon 5D mk II

[ziv]

Update :
transfer time between two adapters : 5DmkII - RAW+JPEG 30Mb
SDXCF : 50 sec
DeLock : 35 sec
same write speed

It seems that the DeLock adapter has less loss of WiFi signal.

Do you mean the Extreme adapter from Amazon?

the DeLock and Extreme adapters are identical. They're made by the same company in Asia, and DeLock is just a branded version of it (sticker). It is totally IDENTICAL. So if you're seeing differences in RF performance, it's just random and the position of your camera may have changed, etc...

But thanks for testing

[ziv]

An update from me also with 5d2
DeLock /removed metal plates/:
50pics /RAW+sJPG/ 2m distance- average speed for transfer -9.5sec
50pics /RAW+sJPG/ 5m distance- average speed for transfer - 10sec
50pics /RAW+sJPG/ 9m distance- average speed for transfer - 10.2sec
To write the images in the buffer - 80sec.
Yesterday was the biggest test for me- I shoot seniors a lot- http://www.360bg.net/school_leavers.php
the last 3 years I had to shoot 30-50 images and to change cards and empty the pics in a laptop to let the kids choose the pics for their albums... a Lot of pain when U are under pressure. My studio is big and cable is not a solution.
I was waiting for that day to write- SOoooo happy with X2 8G + DeLock + iPad that I can't express I don't bother for the delay of 10sec. When I started to shoot some of the kids that is shy gay... after 10sec someone from the waiting room where is the iPad was shouting - "Yo man, the pics are awesome! Don't be so shy!" ... it was quite, quite easier for me.
Soon I'he to make the same procedure outside from the studio when the weather is good for sessions outside... hope for releasing the update for direct transfer to the iPad.

Great. It's awesome to see real-world usage of the combo.

So are you uploading both raw and JPG to the laptop + iPad, or just the JPG's? Notice how the card will always upload the JPG's first, if RAW and JPG images are pending, so that you could quickly review the images, as they're shot. Once the JPG's are done uploading, the RAW images resume to upload.

[360bg]

I hope that the info I gave it's not misleading for someone. The timing is only for sJPG.
For me that is more than OK. At that point don't want to send Raw files.
In the last 2 weeks I had 7 sessions when the client was able to see the pics directly to the iPad. NONE of them was complaining for delaying, all of them were happy to see the pics on 10" display and interact with them instead of just viewing them on 3" display. Even one of them when I was shooting food was in the next room- big relieve for me- tired of clients gathering around the camera display... I know it looks a side of the eye-fi card but is just because of it.

[ziv]

I hope that the info I gave it's not misleading for someone. The timing is only for sJPG.
For me that is more than OK. At that point don't want to send Raw files.
In the last 2 weeks I had 7 sessions when the client was able to see the pics directly to the iPad. NONE of them was complaining for delaying, all of them were happy to see the pics on 10" display and interact with them instead of just viewing them on 3" display. Even one of them when I was shooting food was in the next room- big relieve for me- tired of clients gathering around the camera display... I know it looks a side of the eye-fi card but is just because of it.

Great info, thank you.

The Eye-Fi card uploads at 12mbps, which is about 1.5MBps. The better the range, the closer you will get to that 12mbps. If the Wi-Fi is strong, then yes, your clients can be in the other room, viewing the photos on the tablet, and you can be shooting, quietly, in the other room. If you use a good N router, you'll get better range.

Also, if you feel like experimenting with range (and this has nothing to do with the CF adapter) -- try changing channels. For example, in your case, channel 1 may be better than the default 6, or channel 11 may be better. Most routers default to channel 6, and it's not always going to give you the best range.

Wi-Fi is fun to play with, to try to maximize range.

Thanks --

Ziv.

[rbucich]

Been lightly testing two Eye-Fi cards in a 1D mark IV - using small .jpg for benchmarking, 1 using un-altered CF adapted

I can verify that the camera can write to and transmit from both cards simultaneously.
Since the file names are the same on both cards, there seems to be some issues in writing to the HD, only one set gets sent to Flickr.
Guessing that altering the file names on each card would fix the situation.

When I write to each card separately I find (camera about 15 feet from wireless network):
CF adapter: uploads began about 12-15 seconds after a five shot burst, each photo taking 12-15 seconds each in the status window on computer
SD card straight: uploads began almost immediately with the first appearing on the screen after second shot, each taking about 3-4 seconds
Times are estimated.

Head to head, the straight Eye-Fi card easily wins but I haven't come across any operational failures.

Worth noting, I can do a low level format on the SD card but can only do regular format on card in adapter.

[timoki]

@360bg (or others who know)

I have now the DeLock adpater and it works. But I would like to remove the metal plate(s) to increase the arrange, even though ppl say its easy to do, so far I've tried everything without success. I also don't wanna break the card of course. So is there any trick or tool for it?

Thanks a lot for the help in advance

[ziv]

Been lightly testing two Eye-Fi cards in a 1D mark IV - using small .jpg for benchmarking, 1 using un-altered CF adapted

I can verify that the camera can write to and transmit from both cards simultaneously.
Since the file names are the same on both cards, there seems to be some issues in writing to the HD, only one set gets sent to Flickr.
Guessing that altering the file names on each card would fix the situation.

Rich, interesting. It may be a "feature" of the Eye-Fi Helper, where it thinks that these files are dups. What would be the behavior that you would expect? The files that are written to both slots are identical, in size, name and date-stamp... Are you wishing that each file would go to a different folder?

Worth noting, I can do a low level format on the SD card but can only do regular format on card in adapter.

Does the 1DmkIV offer low-level formats to regular CF cards?

[timoki]

ok, can answer my own question now.

A small suction cup and a small flat screw driver did the job. For anybody trying this, start at the sides where the pin connector is and NOT at the where the SD card slot is, as this part is very fragile (even thought breaking it a bit, doesn't have much effect as I found out).

[oshead]

ok, can answer my own question now.

A small suction cup and a small flat screw driver did the job. For anybody trying this, start at the sides where the pin connector is and NOT at the where the SD card slot is, as this part is very fragile (even thought breaking it a bit, doesn't have much effect as I found out).

Good to hear you found a solution. Will you post up the results of range difference you get with the plate removed?

Thanks

[timoki]

Sure, here my results with DeLock card, Eye-Fi Pro X2 and iPad (just would like to mention that I work in big open space, no walls etc., so others result may differ).
Also I'm using the Router method (Linksys WRT610N v2 with DDR-WRT), so I didn't jailbreak my iPad.

BEFORE removing both metal plates:
Range: 2-3m (will have max. 30-40% reception power)
Time till shuttersnitch starts receiving: Up to 1 minute
Time it takes to transfer JPG image (in small res): 15-20sec (with occasionally transfer error)

AFTER removing both metal plates:
Range: up to 8m (for previous distance of 2-3m my reception power increased to 70%)
Time till shuttersnitch starts receiving: ~10secs
Time it takes to transfer JPG image (in small res): 5-10sec (so far no transfer error)

So as you can see, I'm quite happy with the results after removing the metal plates. Total delay time of ~15secs to get preview is ok for some general use. Of course it doesn't compare to real tethered shooting via USB cable to an iMac. But hey, its wireless and if a client comes over to get some easy previews in his hands is great

[ziv]

Sure, here my results with DeLock card, Eye-Fi Pro X2 and iPad (just would like to mention that I work in big open space, no walls etc., so others result may differ).
Also I'm using the Router method (Linksys WRT610N v2 with DDR-WRT), so I didn't jailbreak my iPad.

Since you're using DD-WRT, try increasing the transmit power on the radio. You'll get better range Start with 120mW, and see if you notice a difference and better signal strength, when you're viewing the bar graphs in DD-WRT

BEFORE removing both metal plates:
Range: 2-3m (will have max. 30-40% reception power)
Time till shuttersnitch starts receiving: Up to 1 minute

The first JPG always takes longer to upload. Subsequent JPG's will take less, once the card is connected to the network.

Time it takes to transfer JPG image (in small res): 15-20sec (with occasionally transfer error)

I'm not familiar with ShutterSnitch, but you should never get transfer errors. With Eye-Fi software and Eye-Fi cards, the system self-corrects and retries. But I heard that ShutterSnitch is solid.

AFTER removing both metal plates:
Range: up to 8m (for previous distance of 2-3m my reception power increased to 70%)
Time till shuttersnitch starts receiving: ~10secs
Time it takes to transfer JPG image (in small res): 5-10sec (so far no transfer error)

As mentioned before, with solid Wi-Fi, you should get 12mbps, which is 1.5MBps. If you're shooting RAW + JPG, and the JPG is tiny, lets say 1MB, it should take about 1 second per JPG. Don't forget that some of the delay is the card writing the RAW image, and not uploading. Only once the card is done writing the files, does it resume to upload. If you would like to verify what I'm saying, turn RAW off, and just shoot small JPG's. You'll see that they'll fly right in.

So as you can see, I'm quite happy with the results after removing the metal plates. Total delay time of ~15secs to get preview is ok for some general use. Of course it doesn't compare to real tethered shooting via USB cable to an iMac. But hey, its wireless and if a client comes over to get some easy previews in his hands is great

Try also changing the channel on the router, from the default channel 6, to 1 or 11, and see if you'll get more range, which will improve your speed.

[360bg]

For anybody trying this, start at the sides where the pin connector is and NOT at the where the SD card slot is, as this part is very fragile (even thought breaking it a bit, doesn't have much effect as I found out).

I started from down right corner according to that pic:
"a small flat screw driver did the job"- so and I.
the range is double after the 'surgery'
about 1000 pics transfered to iPad and iMac with no problem at all.
I've experienced queue few times after erasing a pic which was not transfered. Waiting doesn't help, but after ON OFF game U are back in the race. To write the RAW+sJPG takes 3-5sec - for me is enough to decide do I like the pic/mood/light or not. But let say in 1 of 50 cases if I erase the pic after the writing process I have queue of pics waiting for transfer.

[daz]

As Photosnitch isn't available on android platform, are there other programs like it that works on this platform?

[MORCIK]

I'm using the Eye-fi for more than 2 weeks with the DeLock adapter and made more than 2x400 pictures (JPG+RAW) and 3 movies with one of nearly 2GB in size. Not a single problem so far

[ziv]

As Photosnitch isn't available on android platform, are there other programs like it that works on this platform?

If you search for "Eye-Fi" in the Android market, you'll find a couple of 3rd party apps. Even though I'm an Android fanatic, I personally have not tried them lately, because I'm testing our own Eye-Fi Direct, which will be out at some point (we're not saying when). But I heard that the Fe-Fi app works. You'll find it by searching for it, or for Eye-Fi.

Months ago, when I tried the LeshaK app, I couldn't get it to work, and I contacted the developer, and he hasn't responded. But I heard that others have gotten it to work...

Thx --

Ziv.

[ziv]

But let say in 1 of 50 cases if I erase the pic after the writing process I have queue of pics waiting for transfer.

Sounds like a possible ShutterSnitch bug. You should contact Brian, the developer. He's awesome. To be fair, he needed to reverse engineer our server code, to get Shuttersnitch to work, and he's done an incredible job. So there may be some corner cases where the app doesn't resume correctly, and if you help him debug it, he'll fix it.

Thx --

Ziv.

[daz]

If you search for "Eye-Fi" in the Android market, you'll find a couple of 3rd party apps. [/quote]


Those eye-fi apps I've tried does not do what I want it seems. So there seem not to be any equivalent to photosnith on android.

[ziv]

If you search for "Eye-Fi" in the Android market, you'll find a couple of 3rd party apps.

Those eye-fi apps I've tried does not do what I want it seems. So there seem not to be any equivalent to photosnith on android.[/quote]

K. Then please wait for us to release Eye-Fi Direct...

Thx --

Ziv.

[daz]

K. Then please wait for us to release Eye-Fi Direct...

Thx --

Ziv.

Will that app only work with eye-fi or will it also work with canons wifi-grips?

[ziv]

Will that app only work with eye-fi or will it also work with canons wifi-grips?

Eye-Fi Direct will only work with Eye-FI Cards. It's a combination of new software for all existing and new X2 cards, and applications for popular mobile devices, smart phones and tablets.

Thx --

Ziv.

[ink08]

Just on a curious note, does this adaptor that is recommended to work with canon 5DMKII would also work with a Nikon D300?

[oshead]

Just on a curious note, does this adaptor that is recommended to work with canon 5DMKII would also work with a Nikon D300?

Probably would if the Nikon D300 supports UDMA like the 5DMKII. But it would have to be tested of course.

[gantipas]

Hello,

I bought the CF adaptor,Eye Fi Pro X2 from Amazon and used it with the CANON 5D Mkii and the iMac.I did not modify the cover on the CF since I was afraid to damage the unit. I have a Verizon home lan.
It worked right away for both CR and JPEG images. The CR images took over two minutes.
It also transfers very well to Lightroom 3. The distance was about 15 feet with a wall in between.

Still trying to learn: If I am in the field, close to a wi-fi spot can I use it? Do I have to register the hot spot on the Eye fi system?
In other words, how do I get a photo from the field, near a hot wifi spot, to my iMac in New York?

[oshead]

Hello,

I bought the CF adaptor,Eye Fi Pro X2 from Amazon and used it with the CANON 5D Mkii and the iMac.I did not modify the cover on the CF since I was afraid to damage the unit. I have a Verizon home lan.
It worked right away for both CR and JPEG images. The CR images took over two minutes.
It also transfers very well to Lightroom 3. The distance was about 15 feet with a wall in between.

Still trying to learn: If I am in the field, close to a wi-fi spot can I use it? Do I have to register the hot spot on the Eye fi system?
In other words, how do I get a photo from the field, near a hot wifi spot, to my iMac in New York?

If i was you I wouldn't rely on a hotspot to do the transfer. Why not buy a pocket router and spare battery for it. I think netgear do one.

Edit: Sorry, just re-read your post. You have a Pro X2, why not transfer direct to the iMac.

[vanceMM]

Hey Guys,

I tried the Delock CF adapter with my 7D and Eye-fi x2 pro 8Gb without luck:( I get a CF error and the camera says that the card is formated incorrectly. Has anyone experienced different results with different firmware versions?

VanceMM

[daz]

Hey Guys,

I tried the Delock CF adapter with my 7D and Eye-fi x2 pro 8Gb without luck:( I get a CF error and the camera says that the card is formated incorrectly. Has anyone experienced different results with different firmware versions?

VanceMM

I frist got an error with the card. Took it out of the adapter and pushed it in again and formated the card in the camera.
Now it works perfect. Although not very good range and speed.
I'd rather use my wifi-grips from Canon. They cost alot though.

[vanceMM]

How do I format the card IN the camera? Do I have to connect it to a Computer via USB?

[daz]

How do I format the card IN the camera? Do I have to connect it to a Computer via USB?

put the card in the camera, go to the menu where you have "format" and then just follw othe instructions.
If you can't find it read the manual for the camera.

If it doesn't work as it didn't for me the first couple times. Pull the card out of the adapter and put it in again a few times. Did it for me.

[vanceMM]

I've been pulling it out and sticking it back in now for hours (I'm an animal I know ). But it didn't work. The Cam says that formating the Card is impossible.

Any Suggestions?

vanceMM

[vanceMM]

Finally I found out what's going on with the card. My Adapter is the DeLock 61590 not the 61796:(

Fail.

vanceMM