Canon 5D mk II

[ziv]

Appreciate the long reply above.

But there are so many variables, in the above reply, that I'm just going to ignore the fact that he's saying that he got it to work with 5.0001. According to several reliable sources, the CF UDMA adapter does not work with our latest 5.0001 firmware. Everything else that he says, about the range and speed, is just too difficult to comment on. With Wi-Fi, there are so many variables that could make your experience great, or poor, and there are many threads on that topic, in our forums.

Thx --

Ziv.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

Only included those bits for completeness sake. Did not want to paraphrase and risk removing important information. Not intending to bring anything about range or speed into the discussion. Realize those are completely separate topics

Main point is that it can work on 5.0001 under the right conditions. My mission was to try and determine under which conditions (i.e adapter chipsets, camera firmware, etc) but I have not made much progress due to limited sources.

[ziv]

Yup, totally understood. I'm all for trying to help you guys find solutions that work, even though we totally don't support CF adapters. Let us know. Others are watching this thread. I don't believe that you'll have a lot of luck, with the 5DmkII, if you're really on the 5.0001 fw.

Thx --

Ziv.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

So, received my own Eye-Fi card today. SD to CF adapters is still on it's way.

Thankfully it's on firmware 4.5166 and I was able to cancel what appeared to be an attempted forced upgrade by quitting the app. I did notice however that it states the latest firmware as 5.0006. Anyone tried this firmware with the adapters? I don't see any reference to this version on the site either: http://support.eye.fi/cards/specs/firmw ... ase-notes/

I will not be updating my own until I can be certain it will work based on lots of positive feedback.

[ikinch]

To be on the safe side stay on the old firmware, but ive been running the new one (5.001 or whatever it is) and its been fine.
Ran a whole event last night using it and was flawless.

I use it in the DeLock CF card adapter.
I connected to it using my 3 mifi and was stood about 10 feet away from the iPad and 20feet from Mifi as it was sending. Banging out about 4 photos then stopping for a bit whilst my colleague caught up with it running in the background.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

Beautiful, thanks ikinch!

This is exactly the feedback I was hoping to get. This helps prove it's not a completely closed door for 5.0001+. Definitely not worth the risk of upgrade but good to know that if someone gets an Eye-Fi with 5.0001 already loaded there is a chance it will work if the other variables are right. If we can receive more feedback like this maybe we can better determine the winning combination to help people out of a pinch with 5.0001.

Can I ask which Canon camera you're using (assuming 5D MKII) and which firmware it's running? Also, any chance you can see/report the chipset on your DeLock adapter?

[ziv]

So, received my own Eye-Fi card today. SD to CF adapters is still on it's way.

Thankfully it's on firmware 4.5166 and I was able to cancel what appeared to be an attempted forced upgrade by quitting the app. I did notice however that it states the latest firmware as 5.0006. Anyone tried this firmware with the adapters? I don't see any reference to this version on the site either: http://support.eye.fi/cards/specs/firmw ... ase-notes/

I will not be updating my own until I can be certain it will work based on lots of positive feedback.

I don't think that 5.0006 will be any better for you, as it relates to the CF adapter. 5.0001 was a major firmware upgrade for us, and anything post 5.0001, should not work with the CF adapter, since 5.0001 doesn't.

But reading the forum is interesting, since some are having luck with it. Who knows why. It must be a difference in the Canon firmware or the CF adapter. Our cards are certainly consistent

[ziv]

To be on the safe side stay on the old firmware, but ive been running the new one (5.001 or whatever it is) and its been fine.
Ran a whole event last night using it and was flawless.

I use it in the DeLock CF card adapter.
I connected to it using my 3 mifi and was stood about 10 feet away from the iPad and 20feet from Mifi as it was sending. Banging out about 4 photos then stopping for a bit whilst my colleague caught up with it running in the background.

are you sure that you're running 5.0001? The way to know, with a 100% certainty, is to get a firmware log from the card. Just put the card into the reader (you don't need to start Center), and on Windows, or on the Mac, via the Helper, get the card log. Open the log, with any text viewer, and go all the way to the bottom. Then start going up. Look at time 00.00 and let us know what firmware the card is saying that it's running.

If you're running 5.0001 indeed and you're having luck with the UDMA CF adapter + the 5DmkII -- that's interesting to know.

Thx.

[ziv]

Beautiful, thanks ikinch!

This is exactly the feedback I was hoping to get. This helps prove it's not a completely closed door for 5.0001+. Definitely not worth the risk of upgrade but good to know that if someone gets an Eye-Fi with 5.0001 already loaded there is a chance it will work if the other variables are right. If we can receive more feedback like this maybe we can better determine the winning combination to help people out of a pinch with 5.0001.

Can I ask which Canon camera you're using (assuming 5D MKII) and which firmware it's running? Also, any chance you can see/report the chipset on your DeLock adapter?

By the way -- the chipset is the same. There are 2 types of adapters out there -- UDMA and non-UDMA. EVERY adapter that you're seeing, under all these brands, is made by the same company (C-Ming) and I know them well

It's possible that the chips are running a different firmware, but there is absolutely no way of knowing that, when purchasing the adapter.

Just because I care for you guys (not because we're supporting this in any way) -- I'll contact C-Ming, to find out if they're running different firmwares. My guess is that it's a NO, and that some Canon cameras have a small timing variation with their CF controller, and some cameras are more forgiving then others. Or, it's a different firmware in the 5DmkII.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

By the way -- the chipset is the same. There are 2 types of adapters out there -- UDMA and non-UDMA. EVERY adapter that you're seeing, under all these brands, is made by the same company (C-Ming)
...
I'll contact C-Ming, to find out if they're running different firmwares.

Thanks ziv, I had heard this but was not sure to what degree it was confirmed.

But reading the forum is interesting, since some are having luck with it. Who knows why. It must be a difference in the Canon firmware or the CF adapter. Our cards are certainly consistent

... exactly why I'm trying to prove which adapters/chipsets are being used in addition to the camera firmware. To accurately analyse the issue one has to consider each variable and not make assumptions. Just as you are questioning (as was I in another forum) whether people are truly running 5.0001 it doesn't hurt to question if they are indeed running the adapter chipset we assume they are.

[ikinch]

To be on the safe side stay on the old firmware, but ive been running the new one (5.001 or whatever it is) and its been fine.
Ran a whole event last night using it and was flawless.

I use it in the DeLock CF card adapter.
I connected to it using my 3 mifi and was stood about 10 feet away from the iPad and 20feet from Mifi as it was sending. Banging out about 4 photos then stopping for a bit whilst my colleague caught up with it running in the background.

are you sure that you're running 5.0001? The way to know, with a 100% certainty, is to get a firmware log from the card. Just put the card into the reader (you don't need to start Center), and on Windows, or on the Mac, via the Helper, get the card log. Open the log, with any text viewer, and go all the way to the bottom. Then start going up. Look at time 00.00 and let us know what firmware the card is saying that it's running.

If you're running 5.0001 indeed and you're having luck with the UDMA CF adapter + the 5DmkII -- that's interesting to know.

Thx.

SORRY, my bad, jsut followed your instructions and it says 5.006.
Sorry if i gave any false hope, it was what i thought i saw when it updated the FW.
Ive got the connection down a treat now.

If anyone wants to know what i do.
Setup Direct Mode and add your Mifi network. (this only needs to be done once)

Put SD card in adapter then in camera
Turn camera on and ipad on.
Connect iPad to Mifi
EyeFi centre on the iPad go to settings and pair the card.
go into iPad settings and connect to the Cards direct network which has been created, then away you go.

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

SORRY, my bad, jsut followed your instructions and it says 5.006. Sorry if i gave any false hope, it was what i thought i saw when it updated the FW.

Still valid! The concern is currently with 5.0001 or anything beyond. You may have seen 5.0001 listed as the current version before you did the update. This is still helpful information, thanks.

Were you experiencing any issues before updating to 5.0006 (i.e. while you were still on 5.0001)?

[ziv]

SORRY, my bad, jsut followed your instructions and it says 5.006.

Interesting. Could you please PM me with your firmware log, or just cut and paste the first few lines for us, that show the firmware version?

Maybe between 5.0001 and 5.0006, we made a "positive" change toward the UDMA adapter. I'll check with Engineering.

[ziv]

I just checked with Engineering. 5.0006 is identical to 5.0001, as far as SD interop is concerned.

So it's something with the 5DmkII or the CF adapter's firmware...

[ikinch]

SORRY, my bad, jsut followed your instructions and it says 5.006.

Interesting. Could you please PM me with your firmware log, or just cut and paste the first few lines for us, that show the firmware version?

Maybe between 5.0001 and 5.0006, we made a "positive" change toward the UDMA adapter. I'll check with Engineering.

Will do, but will have to be tomorrow morning.

[ikinch]

Scrap that, here it is, got the original out of the trash so didnt need to run it again. :

I assume, its safe me plastering all this on an open forum ??

[01:27] Scan for pending photos...
[00:00] Eye-Fi firmware 5.0006 Feb 13 2012 19:46:38 started (1), hardware revision 1, CID "AF2G8M", 7596/32 MB, 00-18-xx-xx-xx-xx
[00:02] Marvell 8786 firmware version 12.57.6.p53 running, xtal offset 1/1.
[00:07] Card is in desktop (0x222) transfer mode (timestamp 1330362420), geo-tagging is disabled, hotspots are disabled.
[00:07] Using sync mode AUTO.
[00:07] BGOPS 1 MaxDiv FastClock 1 3 !skip 0
[00:07] ---------------- SCAN-P -----------------------
[00:07] Starting scan of media directories...
[00:07] Done scanning for new media (detected 37 MB in all media). Uploads pending.
[00:07] Done scanning for all photos. Uploads pending.
[00:07] None of the 0 configured wireless networks detected among the 0 within range.
[00:09] Scan complete

[ziv]

sure. If you want to be super super careful, just blank out the MAC address above -- 00-18-56-xx-xx-xx

No big deal, but some people are sensitive about their MAC addresses, because someone else can mascarade, as you. But don't worry. Our servers are smarter then that

OK, so see my msg above. 5.0006 is identical to 5.0001, as far as SD is concerned. So you're just lucky, somehow. Are you using a 5DmkII?

[ikinch]

Yes 5d mkii with a Delock sd adapter from
amazon.

Im never normally lucky with these things

[ziv]

what fw are you running in the 5DmkII?

[Schalli0391]

Hey Everyone
I've been studiing this topic for some hours now so far i have one question left to answer - have the last 2 years of testing shown which is the best combination of CF-Adapter and Eye-fi card? can i use the connect x2 also for my MK II ? i've got one left from the 550D

thanks for response!

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

There is no guarantee with any of the adapters or other variables but from all the trolling I've done on the various forums (and I've done a lot) this seems to have one of the higher success rates.
http://www.amazon.com/ESDCFII-Extreme-S ... 004K079UU/

Also the DeLock seems to have a high success rate but I have found fewer cases of people using that one.

According to ziv and others though most of them use the same internals. Just make sure you get one that is UDMA capable if you're using it with the 5D MKII.

[ziv]

Hey Everyone
I've been studiing this topic for some hours now so far i have one question left to answer - have the last 2 years of testing shown which is the best combination of CF-Adapter and Eye-fi card? can i use the connect x2 also for my MK II ? i've got one left from the 550D

thanks for response!

My advice would be to stick with your T2i It's SD based and Eye-Fi Connected.

But if you must use it with a 5DmkII, start reading this anchor in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1352&start=45#p14097

and notice the latest issue with the latest firmware + the UDMA adapter, with the 5DmkII.

[Schalli0391]

thanks so far- so there is not a significant difference between the pro x2 8gb version and the connect x2 ? both should/could work with the correct components ? assuming the firmwire UDMA issues?

UPDATE: just read the information about the product - now i got the major differences i guess. but still the question: it does work with the connect version too ?

[ziv]

thanks so far- so there is not a significant difference between the pro x2 8gb version and the connect x2 ? both should/could work with the correct components ? assuming the firmwire UDMA issues?

That's correct. The only difference, hardware-wise, is the flash. 4GB vs. 8GB. The firmware is the same, and so is the X2 chip that's inside the cards. Based on the "fingerprint" of the cards -- we enable and disable features and services, on the cards. But for example, the Mobile X2 and the Pro X2 are identical, in hardware. The Pro X2 has more features / functions / services, but the hardware is identical.

[ikinch]

what fw are you running in the 5DmkII?

The latest.

FW2.1.1

[ziv]

what fw are you running in the 5DmkII?

The latest.

FW2.1.1

OK.

I heard back from C-Ming (the maker of all CF-adapters) -- all of their cards are running the same firmware.

So it's something in the 5DmkII that's different. We're the same, and in theory -- the CF adapter is the same...

[Andrey_K]

"Firmware Version 2.1.2 incorporates the following change.
1. Optimizes the camera’s performance when using certain UDMA 7-compatible CF cards released in February 2012 or later..."

[ziv]

"Firmware Version 2.1.2 incorporates the following change.
1. Optimizes the camera’s performance when using certain UDMA 7-compatible CF cards released in February 2012 or later..."

Interesting.

OK, 5DmkII users -- are you seeing this?

I'd like to see several other users, reporting that it works for them. I'll pass this onto Rob Galbraith, even though I'm 99% certain that he's current. He's ALWAYS current

[Andrey_K]

I have not tried the new firmware. I have to report that already has 2.1.2

[DigitalOxygen.ca]

Hoping my adapter arrives soon so I can report on the 7d.